simple1
05-04 11:24 PM
wow its pouring reds and uncivilised comments for pointing out this. Ok. well i am going to continue anyway!.
That is not me.
http://www.uscis.gov/propub/template.htm?view=document&doc_action=setDoc&doc_keytype=tocid&doc_key=2dae084742aac42ac9134cc4466287e7[/url]
(d) Treatment of Family Members. - A spouse or child as defined in subparagraph (A), (B), (C), (D), or (E) of section 101(b)(1) shall, if not otherwise entitled to an immigrant status and the immediate issuance of a visa under subsection (a), (b), or (c), be entitled to the same status, and the same order of consideration provided in the respective subsection, if accompanying or following to join, the spouse or parent.
same status = denied, paroled etc.
same order of consideration=Priority date which depends on petition for both primary and derivative.
I agree with the above two.
"respective subsection:" here means derivative�s corresponding/respective subsection (family) not primary's or petition's. It is the situation of individual that matters not primary or petition.
Take time to read (b) Preference Allocation for Employment-Based Immigrants.
You will find that the eligibility for EBvisa and quota usage are clearly documented. None other than the primary can use the quota. The ebdependent cannot get an ebvisa. so ebdependent cannot use ebquota.
That is not me.
http://www.uscis.gov/propub/template.htm?view=document&doc_action=setDoc&doc_keytype=tocid&doc_key=2dae084742aac42ac9134cc4466287e7[/url]
(d) Treatment of Family Members. - A spouse or child as defined in subparagraph (A), (B), (C), (D), or (E) of section 101(b)(1) shall, if not otherwise entitled to an immigrant status and the immediate issuance of a visa under subsection (a), (b), or (c), be entitled to the same status, and the same order of consideration provided in the respective subsection, if accompanying or following to join, the spouse or parent.
same status = denied, paroled etc.
same order of consideration=Priority date which depends on petition for both primary and derivative.
I agree with the above two.
"respective subsection:" here means derivative�s corresponding/respective subsection (family) not primary's or petition's. It is the situation of individual that matters not primary or petition.
Take time to read (b) Preference Allocation for Employment-Based Immigrants.
You will find that the eligibility for EBvisa and quota usage are clearly documented. None other than the primary can use the quota. The ebdependent cannot get an ebvisa. so ebdependent cannot use ebquota.
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pappu
05-23 09:39 AM
SORRY Fellas, I cannot send this out unless the provision for H1b nenewal be added to it. I know IVs main concern is reg the backlogged GC cases, however, I would request that future of the H1b should also be addresed. I now feel that even contributing to the IV was a mistake because you are not taking a broader view of this issue. Please try to include the clauses affecting H1bs also in your letters. Particularly simple technical aspects like renewing H1b beyond the 6 years period is a MUST and one of the things that can be MOST easily achieved if asked for.
I have a bad feeling about IVs goals. Are you only concerned about getting the GC backlogs cleared? or are you going to be asking for H1b related issues to be addressed too? eg:- H1b renewal after the 6th year is an issue any moron could easily understand and pass. That has been there for many years and should continue for a successful H1b program. Please take care of that issue too. I dont see that included in the letter you have prepared to be sent out to all the senators. Please do that urgently. This is a very techinical issue and can easily be campaingned for. Pls dont ignore it.
If the number 3 in the letter has something to do with H1b renewal, pls reword it and make it clear, however, Idont believe its related to h1b renewal atall.
Please include atleast H1b renewal, one good thing about h1 that all of you have/currently are enjoying, to be included as one of your/our major demands. I am not asking for the H1b placement at different sites thing, that might be difficult to campaign for at this point of time, however, renewal needs to be done.
thomachan72, if you have concerns about IV contact us. We take each decision after careful thinking and planning based on certain information and ground realities. Sometimes all information cannot be posted on the forum. Please trust us so that we can help everyone.
Your posts may start reactions from people and the purpose of the drive will be lost.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4625
Thanks for understanding
I have a bad feeling about IVs goals. Are you only concerned about getting the GC backlogs cleared? or are you going to be asking for H1b related issues to be addressed too? eg:- H1b renewal after the 6th year is an issue any moron could easily understand and pass. That has been there for many years and should continue for a successful H1b program. Please take care of that issue too. I dont see that included in the letter you have prepared to be sent out to all the senators. Please do that urgently. This is a very techinical issue and can easily be campaingned for. Pls dont ignore it.
If the number 3 in the letter has something to do with H1b renewal, pls reword it and make it clear, however, Idont believe its related to h1b renewal atall.
Please include atleast H1b renewal, one good thing about h1 that all of you have/currently are enjoying, to be included as one of your/our major demands. I am not asking for the H1b placement at different sites thing, that might be difficult to campaign for at this point of time, however, renewal needs to be done.
thomachan72, if you have concerns about IV contact us. We take each decision after careful thinking and planning based on certain information and ground realities. Sometimes all information cannot be posted on the forum. Please trust us so that we can help everyone.
Your posts may start reactions from people and the purpose of the drive will be lost.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4625
Thanks for understanding
nk2006
10-25 12:23 PM
Yes, but the immigration hearings already happened. People already have a clear indication on what the public wants. Lou Dobbs is still out there reminding them. Honestly, I wish us good luck, but I am not sure.
Seems like you are indicating that public clearly against CIR: on what basis you are saying that. There was no referendum and even an election after the CIR debate. Most of the opinion polls are evenly split: if I remember correctly a popular opinion poll said that most Americans want to solve the immigration issue and they also are fine with putting illegal immigrants on path to citizenship. They also want to have more border security provisions � most of these aspects are covered in CIR. Of course illegal immigration issue is controversial and CIR may never succeed in its current form irrespective of who is in control of congress. A democrat leading congress may not venture into too controversial aspects of immigration fearing a backlash during presidential elections. The backlash they fear is energizing the extreme right wing. A republican leading congress anyway won�t pass CIR bill.
That�s why our best bet is SKILL bill � this is relatively non-controversial, good for American industry, and supported by different groups. Of course it is very difficult.
Not sure if such an important bill will be taken up during lame-duck session. In fact the outgoing house members may actually push for some aggressive border security measures to make the process even longer than it is now. So yes�.I too wish us good luck we do need it a lot.
Seems like you are indicating that public clearly against CIR: on what basis you are saying that. There was no referendum and even an election after the CIR debate. Most of the opinion polls are evenly split: if I remember correctly a popular opinion poll said that most Americans want to solve the immigration issue and they also are fine with putting illegal immigrants on path to citizenship. They also want to have more border security provisions � most of these aspects are covered in CIR. Of course illegal immigration issue is controversial and CIR may never succeed in its current form irrespective of who is in control of congress. A democrat leading congress may not venture into too controversial aspects of immigration fearing a backlash during presidential elections. The backlash they fear is energizing the extreme right wing. A republican leading congress anyway won�t pass CIR bill.
That�s why our best bet is SKILL bill � this is relatively non-controversial, good for American industry, and supported by different groups. Of course it is very difficult.
Not sure if such an important bill will be taken up during lame-duck session. In fact the outgoing house members may actually push for some aggressive border security measures to make the process even longer than it is now. So yes�.I too wish us good luck we do need it a lot.
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GC_sufferer
07-08 10:46 AM
Found this from Chinese website:
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Immigration/22918275.html
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Immigration/22918275.html
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gc_check
04-06 03:39 PM
Very well said GCBy3000.
I have one question, did you have any trouble while getting mortgage approval? Do you think in the changed scenario in US housing market, people like us will have problems in getting approval b'cos of our residency status and recently tightened regulations?
I know many people who bought home while on H1B, including me. I did tell the Bank/Credit Union, I'm on H1B and my application for GC is under process and all they requested is to provide a letter from my employer about my employment, my h1b papers, etc and I'd no problem in getting a Mortgage Loan. This was a year back.
I have one question, did you have any trouble while getting mortgage approval? Do you think in the changed scenario in US housing market, people like us will have problems in getting approval b'cos of our residency status and recently tightened regulations?
I know many people who bought home while on H1B, including me. I did tell the Bank/Credit Union, I'm on H1B and my application for GC is under process and all they requested is to provide a letter from my employer about my employment, my h1b papers, etc and I'd no problem in getting a Mortgage Loan. This was a year back.
msandhu
05-28 10:29 AM
Once you abandon H1B and get canadian PR, you will need visitor visa to come back to US. My friend did that he comes quite often to visit us.
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sina
08-27 01:20 PM
Case was filed on July 6th (485, 131 and 765). Not sure when it reached NSC.
I-140 approved from TSC in 2006.
No receipts and no checks cashed yet.:(
I-140 approved from TSC in 2006.
No receipts and no checks cashed yet.:(
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ps3539
02-04 08:23 AM
Grass is always greener on the other side...
If you have ead ... I suggest do not go to india
going back for parents' health is valid & noble reason...
If you have ead ... I suggest do not go to india
going back for parents' health is valid & noble reason...
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utthesta
05-21 09:05 AM
You can file for renewal beginning 120 days before your EAD/AP expires.
Thank you!!
Thank you!!
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belmontboy
02-10 12:14 AM
very childish!!!how old are you ?
Is this the best you got??
C'mon kiddo
Is this the best you got??
C'mon kiddo
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indigokiwi
02-25 03:58 PM
Contributed another $50 (Transaction ID: 71P262761L0967946)
Tony, what is the deadline for raising the money?
Tony, what is the deadline for raising the money?
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probe
09-12 10:47 PM
Probe:
when did you file your I-140 was it concurrent or filed prior to filing I-485?
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I filed I-140 in Nov 2006 and it is not a concurrent application
when did you file your I-140 was it concurrent or filed prior to filing I-485?
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I filed I-140 in Nov 2006 and it is not a concurrent application
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mnkaushik
08-30 11:53 AM
My wife and i got emails from USCIS and we checked our status online and it is now CPO. The approval is based on my wife's applicatiion ( EB2 India, Dec 2005). I had two applications one as her dependent and another my own that is EB3 I, Jan 2004.
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maag
04-10 02:29 PM
did anyone did canada landing having no or expired visa & already used advance parole( i used advance parole for travel to India and my i-94 shows my status as AOS)
I am still not able to decide on whether to give up canada landing or not.
Had spent 6K to do all these and when its time to land........... lot of confusions
Just can't decide what to do....i see no timeline as to how long GC will take.
I am still not able to decide on whether to give up canada landing or not.
Had spent 6K to do all these and when its time to land........... lot of confusions
Just can't decide what to do....i see no timeline as to how long GC will take.
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atmercyofdol
10-08 01:29 PM
I applied for the first time in 2001, and then in 2005 (due to relocation) and ended up at the backlog center. Another relocation and now my PD is March 2007, and these recent wannabes want Perm approved in 1 month, I-140 premium processing in few days and then onto I-485 which should be current with no retrogression. Amen !! When do you want the USCIS to bend over for you?
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anzerraja
07-19 07:11 PM
ThinkTwice , very valid points.
May i also take a minute to thank you for staritng the original thread on this issue. We would have never come to know about this issue otherwise. Thanks !
I have requested Zoooom to do the same in the other thread and Zoooom is working on it. Thanks Zooom !
Zoom, I appreciate you having started this thread, I have a suggession - Can you please
- give a little back ground as to why we are starting this effort
- The source http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jul2007/db20070718_012859.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index _businessweek+exclusives
- Also some one mentioned that Aman was even considering SELLING his house to support OUR cause.
- what we intend to accomplish by this effort
- The manner in which the money that is collected will be admistered ( If this has not been finalized may be just mention that this is WIP)
- what our target is.
If you add all this information in the initial post it will give direction and substance to this effort.
Thanks
TT
May i also take a minute to thank you for staritng the original thread on this issue. We would have never come to know about this issue otherwise. Thanks !
I have requested Zoooom to do the same in the other thread and Zoooom is working on it. Thanks Zooom !
Zoom, I appreciate you having started this thread, I have a suggession - Can you please
- give a little back ground as to why we are starting this effort
- The source http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jul2007/db20070718_012859.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index _businessweek+exclusives
- Also some one mentioned that Aman was even considering SELLING his house to support OUR cause.
- what we intend to accomplish by this effort
- The manner in which the money that is collected will be admistered ( If this has not been finalized may be just mention that this is WIP)
- what our target is.
If you add all this information in the initial post it will give direction and substance to this effort.
Thanks
TT
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logiclife
03-08 10:46 AM
Yes, and a lot of people know that there are highly skilled people who are depressed and that takes a toll on employee productivity.
After all, if 90% of your time is spent on thinking about BECs and visa bulletins, imagine if that time was spent on doing the job they've hired you for.
Some employers(like Microsoft) realize this and want to do something about it. Its not just about keeping the best and brightest here in USA. Its also about keeping the morale and productivity up.
As to how to deal with this...try this.
Call your local congressman's office(Find out info about that from House.gov, with your zipcode). Get an appointment with congressman. There is an Easter recess coming up when they would be back from DC.
Then talk to him about all issues you have. Take all the material you need from the "Volunteer" menu item of this website.
Doing something about the problem is the best therapy there is. I am not saying this because I want to coax you into meeting your congressman. No. That's not the objective. But I think action is the best remedy for this problem. And there is actionable stuff to do about this. If you are suffering from terminal cancer, then you really cant do anything about that. This is not such a problem. This is a problem for which the solution is out there.
Somehow, after landing in this country, people lose the appetite for risk and adventure. Before they are in here, they would move mountains to score an H1 or an F1. After coming here, they hunker down, heads-under-the-desk kind of approach. What I am talking about is nearly 200 people right now, who have read this post, but havent logged in. They wouldnt log in. They wouldnt give their real email address if they sign up. They would never contribute. WHY? Because they are afraid. That they will be deported. For no reason. Everything we do is legal, including raising funds and spending it on lobbying. But they are afraid. They are also afraid that by talking to congressmen, they will make them mad and the congressman will pick up the phone, call USCIS and then get their 140 cancelled. Yes. People create their own fastasies and become afraid of them..
Yesterday, nearly 2000 Irish illegals went to capitol hill and talked to various lawmakers to lobby for CIR and legalization. They were illegals. Yet, the somehow managed to walk into the building where laws of this country are made, talk to people who make the laws that they have broken, go thru Capitol Hill security check, and look into the eye of the lawmaker and talk to them.
However, our community, this is how they behave. Forget about talking to congressman, or contributing money. When they call the core group with a question, they block the caller id can call. Dont disclose their name too. Ask a questions and then quickely hang up. Some of them want to contribute with cash because they are not willing to believe us that we are doing everything legal here and its their right to lobbying and petition the Government for problems.
After paying taxes, after following all immigration laws, after getting all the education in the world to become "Highly skilled", the highly skilled cant bring themselves to stand-up with a straight spine, thump their desk and talk to their lawmaker.
So at the end of the day, if we are depressed that legals dont get attention, then you know where to look for blame : the highly skilled who are highly educated and too afraid because their education and skills make them think too much and analyze too much, and they are afraid all the time.
After all, if 90% of your time is spent on thinking about BECs and visa bulletins, imagine if that time was spent on doing the job they've hired you for.
Some employers(like Microsoft) realize this and want to do something about it. Its not just about keeping the best and brightest here in USA. Its also about keeping the morale and productivity up.
As to how to deal with this...try this.
Call your local congressman's office(Find out info about that from House.gov, with your zipcode). Get an appointment with congressman. There is an Easter recess coming up when they would be back from DC.
Then talk to him about all issues you have. Take all the material you need from the "Volunteer" menu item of this website.
Doing something about the problem is the best therapy there is. I am not saying this because I want to coax you into meeting your congressman. No. That's not the objective. But I think action is the best remedy for this problem. And there is actionable stuff to do about this. If you are suffering from terminal cancer, then you really cant do anything about that. This is not such a problem. This is a problem for which the solution is out there.
Somehow, after landing in this country, people lose the appetite for risk and adventure. Before they are in here, they would move mountains to score an H1 or an F1. After coming here, they hunker down, heads-under-the-desk kind of approach. What I am talking about is nearly 200 people right now, who have read this post, but havent logged in. They wouldnt log in. They wouldnt give their real email address if they sign up. They would never contribute. WHY? Because they are afraid. That they will be deported. For no reason. Everything we do is legal, including raising funds and spending it on lobbying. But they are afraid. They are also afraid that by talking to congressmen, they will make them mad and the congressman will pick up the phone, call USCIS and then get their 140 cancelled. Yes. People create their own fastasies and become afraid of them..
Yesterday, nearly 2000 Irish illegals went to capitol hill and talked to various lawmakers to lobby for CIR and legalization. They were illegals. Yet, the somehow managed to walk into the building where laws of this country are made, talk to people who make the laws that they have broken, go thru Capitol Hill security check, and look into the eye of the lawmaker and talk to them.
However, our community, this is how they behave. Forget about talking to congressman, or contributing money. When they call the core group with a question, they block the caller id can call. Dont disclose their name too. Ask a questions and then quickely hang up. Some of them want to contribute with cash because they are not willing to believe us that we are doing everything legal here and its their right to lobbying and petition the Government for problems.
After paying taxes, after following all immigration laws, after getting all the education in the world to become "Highly skilled", the highly skilled cant bring themselves to stand-up with a straight spine, thump their desk and talk to their lawmaker.
So at the end of the day, if we are depressed that legals dont get attention, then you know where to look for blame : the highly skilled who are highly educated and too afraid because their education and skills make them think too much and analyze too much, and they are afraid all the time.
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hpandey
07-20 05:07 PM
IV could not even collect 20K in the Washington DC drive. I hardly saw EB3 folks contributing (based on my observation, I might be wrong so take it easy). If every EB3 person contributes 50USD, it will be enough to run a campaign. Action is the key, not posting in forums. Hope we get out of this EB2 vs EB3 and as focus on visa recapture.
I am EB3 and I contributed to every IV campaign including the last DC advocacy. Just because all IV efforts end up helping only EB2 does not mean EB3 people do not contribute or participate in advocacy efforts. Its just that no one wants to hear about EB3 whether it be USCIS or anyone else. :mad:
I am EB3 and I contributed to every IV campaign including the last DC advocacy. Just because all IV efforts end up helping only EB2 does not mean EB3 people do not contribute or participate in advocacy efforts. Its just that no one wants to hear about EB3 whether it be USCIS or anyone else. :mad:
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LONGGCQUE
09-23 01:56 PM
Totally agree with admin2. Rules are rules .. if you can apply and get thru EB2 .. so others 'qualified' have the right to do so.
eb3_nepa
08-18 01:30 PM
Everybody has been waiting for his/her green card and congratulations to all those who has got their GC. On the other hand it is really unfair and to some extent unethical on the part of USICS not follow a fair system.
There are several people in 2004, 2005 who have been paitently waiting for their turn only to see that people behind them getting approved.
Several of us have writtent to Ombudsman, Director but of no avail.
Not sure what else can be done? Any Idea? Do we have any liaison with AILA who can take up this matter.
Sunny Surya,
With all due respect let me make a couple of observations here.
1) First you file a lawsuit that prevents fellow Eb3's from porting to Eb2 at a later date, even though those individuals may have advanced in their careers and would be eligible for better jobs.
2) Now that you have successfully broken a united community into two factions, you want the IV core to now further take up the "Eb2 cause" against the USCIS, because YOU cannot file a lawsuit against the USCIS (the 500 pound gorilla) an organization that doesnt give a c**p about the immigrants and even its own internal processing "rule"?
3) Let me ask you, WHY should the IV core help ONLY the Eb2 at this point. You and some other Eb2 members were and are flexing your muscles against the Eb3 members who have been suffering in the EXACT same manner. What exactly have YOU contributed towards uniting the Legal employment based community and what have YOU done to help the Core team so far, that you now ask the core team to specifically take the Eb2 non-sequential processing up with the law-makers?
If you see a problem with the non-sequential processing, why dont YOU write to your own senators/congressmen and ask them to follow up on your individual case?
One more thing, if you are planning on replying back saying that "This is my last post on IV" so be it. IV does not need members who think of just themselves. And yes if you are planning on giving me red/gray/green dots please feel free to do so.
Thanks!
There are several people in 2004, 2005 who have been paitently waiting for their turn only to see that people behind them getting approved.
Several of us have writtent to Ombudsman, Director but of no avail.
Not sure what else can be done? Any Idea? Do we have any liaison with AILA who can take up this matter.
Sunny Surya,
With all due respect let me make a couple of observations here.
1) First you file a lawsuit that prevents fellow Eb3's from porting to Eb2 at a later date, even though those individuals may have advanced in their careers and would be eligible for better jobs.
2) Now that you have successfully broken a united community into two factions, you want the IV core to now further take up the "Eb2 cause" against the USCIS, because YOU cannot file a lawsuit against the USCIS (the 500 pound gorilla) an organization that doesnt give a c**p about the immigrants and even its own internal processing "rule"?
3) Let me ask you, WHY should the IV core help ONLY the Eb2 at this point. You and some other Eb2 members were and are flexing your muscles against the Eb3 members who have been suffering in the EXACT same manner. What exactly have YOU contributed towards uniting the Legal employment based community and what have YOU done to help the Core team so far, that you now ask the core team to specifically take the Eb2 non-sequential processing up with the law-makers?
If you see a problem with the non-sequential processing, why dont YOU write to your own senators/congressmen and ask them to follow up on your individual case?
One more thing, if you are planning on replying back saying that "This is my last post on IV" so be it. IV does not need members who think of just themselves. And yes if you are planning on giving me red/gray/green dots please feel free to do so.
Thanks!
anzerraja
07-19 07:11 PM
ThinkTwice , very valid points.
May i also take a minute to thank you for staritng the original thread on this issue. We would have never come to know about this issue otherwise. Thanks !
I have requested Zoooom to do the same in the other thread and Zoooom is working on it. Thanks Zooom !
Zoom, I appreciate you having started this thread, I have a suggession - Can you please
- give a little back ground as to why we are starting this effort
- The source http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jul2007/db20070718_012859.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index _businessweek+exclusives
- Also some one mentioned that Aman was even considering SELLING his house to support OUR cause.
- what we intend to accomplish by this effort
- The manner in which the money that is collected will be admistered ( If this has not been finalized may be just mention that this is WIP)
- what our target is.
If you add all this information in the initial post it will give direction and substance to this effort.
Thanks
TT
May i also take a minute to thank you for staritng the original thread on this issue. We would have never come to know about this issue otherwise. Thanks !
I have requested Zoooom to do the same in the other thread and Zoooom is working on it. Thanks Zooom !
Zoom, I appreciate you having started this thread, I have a suggession - Can you please
- give a little back ground as to why we are starting this effort
- The source http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jul2007/db20070718_012859.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index _businessweek+exclusives
- Also some one mentioned that Aman was even considering SELLING his house to support OUR cause.
- what we intend to accomplish by this effort
- The manner in which the money that is collected will be admistered ( If this has not been finalized may be just mention that this is WIP)
- what our target is.
If you add all this information in the initial post it will give direction and substance to this effort.
Thanks
TT
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