Sachin_Stock
09-24 09:37 AM
Consider the scenario:
Two guys (A and B) come to US in 2005, both do not have MS and experience less than 5 years. Therefore both not elligible for EB2 on 2005. They are from a retrogressed country.
A does MS and joins job in 2007, becomes eligible for EB2 and files GC on 2007.
B joins a job on 2005 that do not need MS and experience and files for EB3.
Till 2010 both of them did not get GC. But B crossed 5 years of experience and from EB3 to EB2. Now B's priority date is 2005, although he was not elligible for EB2 at that time.
Although A was elligible for EB2 in 2007 earlier than B (2010), A is pushed behind B.
SHould it be acceptable to people like A? And there is not one or two pleale like B, thousands arer doing that?
If you see my priority date you will understand I am not saying this for myself. I have a bro and friends who are facing this isssue.
Therefore EB2s who are from mid 2006 onwards will really get pushed back..
I see this porting simillar to the labor substitition.. Till it was in place it was legal although thousands bought labors and that is one main reason EB2 had retrogressed back to 2000. I predict simillar thing is happending again, people are paying money to the desi employers to file perm in EB2 again pretty soon same tertrogression will happen to EB2 I if any urgent action is not taken.
I hace passed this stage.. now its for you all to decide..
The fact that B filed before A, puts B ahead of A. You must think of it as just one queue and not different queues.
Two guys (A and B) come to US in 2005, both do not have MS and experience less than 5 years. Therefore both not elligible for EB2 on 2005. They are from a retrogressed country.
A does MS and joins job in 2007, becomes eligible for EB2 and files GC on 2007.
B joins a job on 2005 that do not need MS and experience and files for EB3.
Till 2010 both of them did not get GC. But B crossed 5 years of experience and from EB3 to EB2. Now B's priority date is 2005, although he was not elligible for EB2 at that time.
Although A was elligible for EB2 in 2007 earlier than B (2010), A is pushed behind B.
SHould it be acceptable to people like A? And there is not one or two pleale like B, thousands arer doing that?
If you see my priority date you will understand I am not saying this for myself. I have a bro and friends who are facing this isssue.
Therefore EB2s who are from mid 2006 onwards will really get pushed back..
I see this porting simillar to the labor substitition.. Till it was in place it was legal although thousands bought labors and that is one main reason EB2 had retrogressed back to 2000. I predict simillar thing is happending again, people are paying money to the desi employers to file perm in EB2 again pretty soon same tertrogression will happen to EB2 I if any urgent action is not taken.
I hace passed this stage.. now its for you all to decide..
The fact that B filed before A, puts B ahead of A. You must think of it as just one queue and not different queues.
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sunofeast_gc
07-08 03:49 PM
Madam Rice is trying to divert the issue by telling skilled professional from all over the world wants to come here....This is not the issue.....
Issue is there are thousands of high skilled professional with approved labor and I-140 , waiting for years to file I-485.... DOS told then on 13th June that you all can file I-485 and all of the sudden on 2nd July 07 DOS said we can't accept your application...
So madam secretary it's not issue of how many high skilled professional wants to come here. Infact DOS/USCIS/Govt. of US need to think how life is tough for those high skilled professional who already came here and waiting for years to get green card through legal system....
Issue is there are thousands of high skilled professional with approved labor and I-140 , waiting for years to file I-485.... DOS told then on 13th June that you all can file I-485 and all of the sudden on 2nd July 07 DOS said we can't accept your application...
So madam secretary it's not issue of how many high skilled professional wants to come here. Infact DOS/USCIS/Govt. of US need to think how life is tough for those high skilled professional who already came here and waiting for years to get green card through legal system....
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Kodi
07-30 09:54 AM
Just received an email from CRIS, our I-131 was approved. Nothing on EAD.
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mirage
03-26 08:59 AM
I don't know how you have calclated that. As far as I remember seeing various threads on this forum, there are atleast 5-6K EB3 in 2002 and similar number in 2003 for India. Considering 2.5 number used per family I an guessing we need atleast 20-25K Green card numbers for EB3 to move beyond 2003. With just 3300 EB3 available per year, my guess is it'll take 4-5 years for cuttoff dates to go past 2003. I may be pesimistic, but this country's immigration system has taking all optimism out of our American dream...
EB3-India with PD 2003 and before - Most will be out by December 2008 -
Perhaps 10% may still rot in NC further.
EB3-India with PD JAN 2004 - DEC 2004 - Most will be out by August 2009
Perhaps 20% may still rot in NC
further.
EB3-India with PD JAN 2005 - April 2005 - Most will be out by April 2010
Perhaps 5% may still rot in NC
further.
EB3-India May 2005 Onwards - Can not predict - It is good to look for other
options and that option certainly MUST not
be switching to EB2
EB3-India with PD 2003 and before - Most will be out by December 2008 -
Perhaps 10% may still rot in NC further.
EB3-India with PD JAN 2004 - DEC 2004 - Most will be out by August 2009
Perhaps 20% may still rot in NC
further.
EB3-India with PD JAN 2005 - April 2005 - Most will be out by April 2010
Perhaps 5% may still rot in NC
further.
EB3-India May 2005 Onwards - Can not predict - It is good to look for other
options and that option certainly MUST not
be switching to EB2
tonyHK12
02-24 09:25 AM
Most of you have got this in your email. Please forward to all those in the EB2, EB3 queue.
Text for Advocacy day Newsletter (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1901186-action-item-advocacy-days-in-washington-dc-in-april-2011-a-7.html#post2372432)
Text for Advocacy day Newsletter (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1901186-action-item-advocacy-days-in-washington-dc-in-april-2011-a-7.html#post2372432)
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eb3_nepa
12-11 11:26 AM
If Microsoft with all the money and power can't get visa increase, it's naive to assume that we can do that in one shot. Let's just fry the small fish first.
Well said actually!
From the past couple of years and efforts it is VERY clear that any kind of Quota Increase is a BIG no no with the Anti-immigrants. This now divides the IV users into 3 groups
1) This group has already applied for the I-485 a Long time ago but has not seen their GC in the mail yet.
2) This group has not been able to file for I-485 coz of retrogression.
3) This group is stuck in Labour Certification stage and cant do anything about it.
How about for starters if we try and alleviate the pain of people in groups 2 and 3, i.e. ask for people to be able to apply for stage 3 (and ead etc) without the PD mess. For the labour people we ask for a similar benefit. As for group one, well i know that you guys do not benefit under this, but consider this, you are already in a much better situation than the rest of 2 groups. I know you have to go for fingerprinting etc and renew the EAD every year, but consider this: People stuck in LC and stage 2 have to spend much more on renewing H1/H4s coz of lawyer fees. Maybe, if we reduced our demands to asking for 3 things
a) Filing for stage 3 regardless of PD
b) Relief for people in the LC mess
c) Fingerprinting one person just Once (i mean fingerprints dont change do they?)
This might go under the radar as no quota increase is being asked for. I know this point has been discussed ad-infinitum before and we concluded that no more band-aids for the immigration process, let us get a permanent solution. Well permanent solutions take their time, especially with a Much more powerful lobby opposing those changes. For all we know this permanent solution may NEVER go through. Lets face the facts here:
1) The big corps are pushing ONLY for H1B increase.
2) Anti-immigrants are opposed to ANY kind of increase in numbers.
3) Currently the political climate is such that it is either, deal with legals AND illegals or nothing at all.
4) Currently FAR bigger problems stand in front of the lawmakers such as the war, stem cell, abortion etc etc etc.
5) Currently the average American is OPPOSED to even legal immigrants for fear of losing their jobs to them.
In light of all this, does it make sense to go for a Comprehensive Permanent solution or does it make sense to ask for smaller tid-bits and treat the other costs we incur as "costs of doing business"? I mean atleast if the husband and wife Both have H1bs and jobs, you will still be making a ton of money. U use things like approved I-140s to switch jobs with 3 year extensions or u use the EADs. Let us seriously think about this solution.
Well said actually!
From the past couple of years and efforts it is VERY clear that any kind of Quota Increase is a BIG no no with the Anti-immigrants. This now divides the IV users into 3 groups
1) This group has already applied for the I-485 a Long time ago but has not seen their GC in the mail yet.
2) This group has not been able to file for I-485 coz of retrogression.
3) This group is stuck in Labour Certification stage and cant do anything about it.
How about for starters if we try and alleviate the pain of people in groups 2 and 3, i.e. ask for people to be able to apply for stage 3 (and ead etc) without the PD mess. For the labour people we ask for a similar benefit. As for group one, well i know that you guys do not benefit under this, but consider this, you are already in a much better situation than the rest of 2 groups. I know you have to go for fingerprinting etc and renew the EAD every year, but consider this: People stuck in LC and stage 2 have to spend much more on renewing H1/H4s coz of lawyer fees. Maybe, if we reduced our demands to asking for 3 things
a) Filing for stage 3 regardless of PD
b) Relief for people in the LC mess
c) Fingerprinting one person just Once (i mean fingerprints dont change do they?)
This might go under the radar as no quota increase is being asked for. I know this point has been discussed ad-infinitum before and we concluded that no more band-aids for the immigration process, let us get a permanent solution. Well permanent solutions take their time, especially with a Much more powerful lobby opposing those changes. For all we know this permanent solution may NEVER go through. Lets face the facts here:
1) The big corps are pushing ONLY for H1B increase.
2) Anti-immigrants are opposed to ANY kind of increase in numbers.
3) Currently the political climate is such that it is either, deal with legals AND illegals or nothing at all.
4) Currently FAR bigger problems stand in front of the lawmakers such as the war, stem cell, abortion etc etc etc.
5) Currently the average American is OPPOSED to even legal immigrants for fear of losing their jobs to them.
In light of all this, does it make sense to go for a Comprehensive Permanent solution or does it make sense to ask for smaller tid-bits and treat the other costs we incur as "costs of doing business"? I mean atleast if the husband and wife Both have H1bs and jobs, you will still be making a ton of money. U use things like approved I-140s to switch jobs with 3 year extensions or u use the EADs. Let us seriously think about this solution.
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ski_dude12
08-20 12:40 PM
My words exactly...
He should be happy that his case is atleast being looked at unlike others who really have no clue when it will be picked up.
Dude, what makes you feel better? let me try, my case pd is Mar 18th 2005, RD july 2nd 2007 and ND July 28th 2007.
It is assigned to officer on 28th June, no issues with case, all are in place like name check, background check, finger prints valid till next year, officer touched my case on july 12th and 28th, no RFE sent so far as per IO and don't know why it is still sitting on officers desk. I did everything SR, 2 infopass, senators, congresswomen, Ombudsman, NSC follow up emails, SCOPSSCATTA email, nothing worked so far.
I think you will leave the boat before me, good luck.
He should be happy that his case is atleast being looked at unlike others who really have no clue when it will be picked up.
Dude, what makes you feel better? let me try, my case pd is Mar 18th 2005, RD july 2nd 2007 and ND July 28th 2007.
It is assigned to officer on 28th June, no issues with case, all are in place like name check, background check, finger prints valid till next year, officer touched my case on july 12th and 28th, no RFE sent so far as per IO and don't know why it is still sitting on officers desk. I did everything SR, 2 infopass, senators, congresswomen, Ombudsman, NSC follow up emails, SCOPSSCATTA email, nothing worked so far.
I think you will leave the boat before me, good luck.
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maag
06-06 09:28 PM
Hi Maag,
I did not land yet. Planning to give away canada PR. Its too much of risk being on AP/EAD. I have too many things on stake in US like Home, Nice Jobs for me and my wife..don't want to risk all that.
As it is i don't think I will ever settle in Canada, i had applied at a time when my US labor was stuck in backlog for almost 5 years but now things have changed and if i ever have to leave US I think I will go back to my home country; as it is after being here for 8 years I don't have energy to start all over again in some new country.
What have you decided? do you know the procedure to get landing fee back?
I am also giving up canada PR, i had also applied at the time my green card process was not moving, also i don't have any job offer as of now in canada, i don't want to leave what's in hand in hope of something similar (can't say better). I don't know procedure to get landing fees back and will soon be working on that.
I did not land yet. Planning to give away canada PR. Its too much of risk being on AP/EAD. I have too many things on stake in US like Home, Nice Jobs for me and my wife..don't want to risk all that.
As it is i don't think I will ever settle in Canada, i had applied at a time when my US labor was stuck in backlog for almost 5 years but now things have changed and if i ever have to leave US I think I will go back to my home country; as it is after being here for 8 years I don't have energy to start all over again in some new country.
What have you decided? do you know the procedure to get landing fee back?
I am also giving up canada PR, i had also applied at the time my green card process was not moving, also i don't have any job offer as of now in canada, i don't want to leave what's in hand in hope of something similar (can't say better). I don't know procedure to get landing fees back and will soon be working on that.
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glen
05-04 02:56 PM
I agree. Every little bit will help, when numbers are not moving at all.
I disagree a little bit - this will help people in EB3 indirectly
A lot of people in EB2 and EB3 can qualify for auto adjustment of status now, so it will remove people from EB3 queue making it smaller.
I disagree a little bit - this will help people in EB3 indirectly
A lot of people in EB2 and EB3 can qualify for auto adjustment of status now, so it will remove people from EB3 queue making it smaller.
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svinjamur
07-03 05:12 PM
I got an email today from USCIS stating this
Current Status: Card production ordered.
I did not receive any other approval notice. I hope this means that our 485 is approved and the cards have been ordered ?
My PD Is May 2003
Current Status: Card production ordered.
I did not receive any other approval notice. I hope this means that our 485 is approved and the cards have been ordered ?
My PD Is May 2003
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NKR
04-23 06:20 PM
You can view my past posts in IV, I am not Desi employer but I may become very soon to employ myself (very close to get GC :-) )
Anyway have you gone through yourself with same situation/tension as OP going through or do you know someone closely who have gone through? Have you dealt with attorney yourself?
If that employer sue you, definitely you can counter sue for violation of wage related or h1b related rules and attorney will be the best person to advice you on that. make sure you go to an attorney who practice employement laws and have knowledge or have some other attorney in the same firm who deals in immi related matter. But question is, do you want to go through nightmare of law suites or you just want peace of mind.
Your suggestion of talking to an attorney is well taken but not the advices. Thanks, good luck in your business
Anyway have you gone through yourself with same situation/tension as OP going through or do you know someone closely who have gone through? Have you dealt with attorney yourself?
If that employer sue you, definitely you can counter sue for violation of wage related or h1b related rules and attorney will be the best person to advice you on that. make sure you go to an attorney who practice employement laws and have knowledge or have some other attorney in the same firm who deals in immi related matter. But question is, do you want to go through nightmare of law suites or you just want peace of mind.
Your suggestion of talking to an attorney is well taken but not the advices. Thanks, good luck in your business
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Sachin_Stock
09-14 01:08 PM
I think IV should make it mandatory for $25/monthly charge for all the folks.
At least we can get rid of the dual-nature of 'helping you, only a little bit' sort of tendency.
However, there should total transparency once people pay. I see some guys are frustrated for lack of information despite them being donors.
At least we can get rid of the dual-nature of 'helping you, only a little bit' sort of tendency.
However, there should total transparency once people pay. I see some guys are frustrated for lack of information despite them being donors.
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salai007
08-13 11:45 AM
My lawyer went to the SC and dropped the papers on July 2, still I am waiting for my receipt#....does anybody in my situation like this?
Regards,
-Salai
Regards,
-Salai
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gccovet
02-09 02:45 PM
I will mail my $50 Contribution Today.
GO IV GO-
Thanks a lot rvurady14.
GO IV GO-
Thanks a lot rvurady14.
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satish_hello
08-21 06:11 PM
Hi Guys, if you filled between July3rd to July15th please update here.
I have sent my application on July5th to NSC. It is received by NSC at July6th.Did any one got receipts in 5th or 6th filer..
I didn't see much of filed between july'3nd through july '14th filings in this forum.
-satish
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EB2/PD-Sept'2004/I-140 Approved.
I-485 - Sent July5th.
RD - ?
AD -?
I have sent my application on July5th to NSC. It is received by NSC at July6th.Did any one got receipts in 5th or 6th filer..
I didn't see much of filed between july'3nd through july '14th filings in this forum.
-satish
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EB2/PD-Sept'2004/I-140 Approved.
I-485 - Sent July5th.
RD - ?
AD -?
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kannan
02-15 12:00 PM
I applied on July2,got the receipt on Aug 22 nd.Got EAD,AP.
One strange thing is my case is NSC to CSC but still in CSC only .I think except my case,all others cases transfred back to NSC.I do not know the reason.
Any comments please....
One strange thing is my case is NSC to CSC but still in CSC only .I think except my case,all others cases transfred back to NSC.I do not know the reason.
Any comments please....
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wizpal
11-21 10:38 AM
Mehul,
May God give you and your family the strength and power to come out good through this trying times...Best of luck.
Do drop us a note if you need any help...
May God give you and your family the strength and power to come out good through this trying times...Best of luck.
Do drop us a note if you need any help...
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ras
11-22 02:44 AM
It's definetly a shock and an usual post on these forums. I am spellbound by the support you are getting from the forum members. I am seeing the humanitarian attitude all around praying for your health. This should bring change about the way you think about your health. You are fighting against an enemy- the prognosis you got from the doctors. The only option left for you is winning against the enemy no matter what it takes. The foremost thought you should inculcate is that you are winning against the enemy. That's it. I believe the will power will definetly take you out of the fatal disease.
I know it is hard but try concentrating more on your health than other things including your family members. Hopefully generous IV members will do something for your family which probably can be done in our limits. Whereas it is you who has to fight against the disease and so you got to take care of your health first.
My best wishes are with you.
I know it is hard but try concentrating more on your health than other things including your family members. Hopefully generous IV members will do something for your family which probably can be done in our limits. Whereas it is you who has to fight against the disease and so you got to take care of your health first.
My best wishes are with you.
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07-20 03:36 AM
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alisa
09-14 10:43 AM
What do you guys think about ROW EB3? Any chance for them folks or are they SOL as well?
I am not sure what SOL stands for.
But I can assure you that EB-3 ROW has very little hope. My estimate was that EB3-ROW's wait times were around 5-6 years.
But now, I have a feeling, that its going to be more like 10+ years. And 10+ years is a long time. Some sort of reform will happen in the next five or six years, and even that reform is not likely to get us greencards, since it may emphasize the family-based applicants.
I am not sure what SOL stands for.
But I can assure you that EB-3 ROW has very little hope. My estimate was that EB3-ROW's wait times were around 5-6 years.
But now, I have a feeling, that its going to be more like 10+ years. And 10+ years is a long time. Some sort of reform will happen in the next five or six years, and even that reform is not likely to get us greencards, since it may emphasize the family-based applicants.
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